The X2 are currently on sale for $185 on newegg and the 6xx are $199 on Massdrop. The 880s are much more neutral than the 770s or 990s. My 20yo DT990 is still good. I never tried EQ but stock performance is not great. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. ... Facebook Twitter Reddit Tumblr … On a pair of, say, Sennheiser HD 380, I would never hear the sibilance problem (if there was one) in the first place. I would like to hear some opinion thumb_up LuckyLuke575 and gorian2222. Not sure if that’s where you got them from but if they are I’d love to know if that’s the case. 41000Hz vs 35000Hz The 650s will make your mixes bright elsewhere since they are rather warm n mellow. My response was to clarify, not only for you, in case you were confused, but for others reading who may be in need of guidance. They are equally known for lacking in the bass department. The HD650 still owns all the land in the sub $500 tier for open backs, despite a few competing threats to its 15 years or so reign after it was first released. I haven't played any games yet on mine to comment since I just got them a few hours ago but I can let you know since I'm competitive player myself. I’ve owned both DT990 and HD650. However my box was really covered in this black residue which feels like its been sitting in the back of their warehouse for god knows how long. Apparently the X2 aren't the best for absolute best positional awareness but are great for casual or Single player. It is not too overpowering, but at the same time, it is clear and well-defined. 31. remove_red_eye. For example, I own a pair of Sennheiser hd650s and a pair of ath-m50s. Mine didn't have glue on them and the back of the box said Woox if that matters? 11. Apr 24, 2018 9183 VIEWS. All these headphones are great but can a person who doesn’t really have an interest in high end audio really hear the difference in good headphones? But as I stated earlier, I go between 880s and 770s. Sennheiser HD650 vs Beyerdynamic DT990? HD600 / HD650 / DT990 / DT880 / DT770 (pro) hello guys. The most expensive offering in Beyerdynamic’s DT line will take on a mid-level opponent from Sennheiser’s HD line: the 660 S.While not exactly the same price, the DT 1990 can occasionally be found on sale for $500 or less, landing both of these headphones in the “mid-level” audiophile category. The HD650 is the oldest model among the 3, so I shall use this as the benchmark to describe the rest. They are very different. Additionally, sitewide rules and reddiquette applies. Ya, so if you mix to sound smooth on hyped headphones, you run the risk of it sounding dull on unhyped sources. This is what happens when have too much gear, move house, and fail to reorganize. 11. And before someone asks, unfortunately I can't treat this room. i feel like worst case scenario if you wanted to keep them, you could possibly use an EQ or change the ears to something not as deep to hear better for competitive play. Moderator. HD600 ADVANTAGES. Obviously, what I meant by "smooth" was relative to how commercial recordings sound similarly smooth on those same headphones. They sound really fun and have a good soundstage but at high volume some recordings can pierce like like hell. the only thing the 558 has which the dt990 doesnt is a more "neutral" sound signature. [–]t4trisAFO | K371 | DT770 | HD6XX | WH-1000XM3 | SMSL M500 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). the hd598 is neutral, while the hd558 has a slight tendency towards more bass. Hey there! I was not trying to "prove" you wrong, just simply to discuss useful technique. I really like my DT990 Edition (i have the 600ohm version). Interesting. There's this weird rumor running around this sub that you can't hear footsteps very well with the X2s but I routinely listen to them when my teammates can't and I have to tell them where the enemy is coming from. Overall, I like the AKG headband for comfort. But if you're getting the HD 650, you could get the Massdrop made Sennheisers 6xx which apparently are the same but cheaper. Upon rereading, he clearly stated what he meant in his original response to me, and for some reason I just didn't connect the dots. If you are shelling out so much, its better to put some more money and get the HD 650 or 600. The X2 aren't good for competitive gaming. I’m pretty all over the place as far as my music taste goes so something that can do everything decently well would be awesome. X2 is bassy/V shaped so harsh treble as well, its ok for gaming, more Battlefield with explosions than CS:GO with footsteps. "Ya, so if you mix to sound smooth on hyped headphones, you run the risk of it sounding dull on unhyped sources.". Ianhickler. Le DT880 est bien plus équilibré et globalement supérieur. Ideally, I think I’d prefer a mixing situation where a sibilance issue would present itself if there was one, but wouldn’t add to that region to make it sound more sibilant than it actually is. Almost as much as a pair of 7506 are. i will use it in my studio for mixing/mastering for DEEP HOUSE genre. Recently I moved to a room where my 7'' speakers are just unusable (they sound kind of odd even with Sonarworks treatment going on). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: • /r/headphones is a community for discussion around all topics related to headphones and personal audio. With all due respect, some of your posts were very confusing. I ordered a pair off Newegg and I’m wondering if their the ones without the glued pads. Our Verdict. There are some closed back cans that are quite good. The DT990 (250Ω at least. What you said didn't make sense to me and did not indicate anything "obvious" other than a lack of logic. Already have an account? The DT 990 Edition was released as a “home” listening headphone for high-end audio speakers, however, on their website, they say that both DT 990 headphones use exactly the same technology inside, so the only difference is aesthetically (1. the straight vs. coiled cable, 2. softer headband on Edition, and 3. colour). The 600Ω is rarer, but supposedly has less painful treble though I can't confirm that) is a bit V-shaped and has the maximum Beyertreble as in it has lots of it and it is quite spiky. The Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO and the Philips SHP9500 are both very good audiophile headphones if you like a neutral sound, but they have different sound profiles. HD6xx might sound a bit boring due to warmer sound signature and mild treble. I am using a dedicated amp + dac with these. The Philips have a significant bass roll-off, but their treble is much better-balanced and they have a more natural soundstage. You need an account to post a reply. You are also encouraged to check the menu at the top of the screen, containing links for further learning, past discussions, and to a number of audio-friendly subreddits. Clear writing can be tricky stuff, especially when shooting from the hip quickly and/or minimally. the dt990 is a superior product to the hd558 in almost every way. more_vert. I would recommend leaving it sounding bright since that's what the cans are contributing. How bright is the question that you may need to answer by listening to other references than the 770s. If I mix on the ath-m50s I have found to run a much greater risk of the mix sounding dull and lifeless on most other playback mediums. Moderators may remove posts at their discretion. It is very easy for miscommunications to happen when relying on the written word alone. Thanks for the breakdown. Actually I don't have a HD800 vs HD650 review (doh). The Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro and the Sennheiser HD650 are both open back professional headphones designed for studio use. I can use them to place a mic or to monitor, but I can't mix very well on them at all. Neither has an especially wide soundstage, but I wouldn't call them claustrophobic either. Bass Heads need not apply. I had to really scrub my hands after handling it. Today we have two open-back contenders going head-to-head. DT990 Pro is the 250Ohm version . the dt990 has a v-shaped signature which means somewhat subdued mids and more prominent bass and treble. How do each of these fair for gaming (competitive shooters) and EDM/Trance/Hip-Hop/Classical music? and join one of thousands of communities. Soundstage is smaller than DT & x2 but bigger than HD650 gives you explosions & footsteps!. I would not assume that. I've tried them with and without multiple preamps, all with the same result. 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